RTN Theology #32 (Pt 2)- You Shall Know the Truth and the Truth Shall Unsettle You w/ Mark Charles & Soong-Chan Rah

September 17, 2020
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This podcast is the second (listen to Pt 1) of a special 2-part episode of RTN Theology features co-authors Soong-Chan Rah & Mark Charles talking about lament, imagination, history, politics, and a call to conciliation. Deeply theological thinkers, Charles and Rah, their partnership came about from repeatedly crossing paths speaking about the topics of the Doctrine of Discovery and lament. Currently Mark Charles is running for Presidency of the United States of America as an independent.

Each part of this conversation features wonderful new music from the Porter’s Gate Worship Project. Featured on RTN episode 16, the Wardells organized the writing, recording, and release of two short albums during the Covid-19 pandemic: Justice Songs (Sept 4) & Lament Songs (Sept 11).


Soong-Chan Rah (ThD, Duke Divinity School) is Milton B. Engebretson Professor of Church Growth and Evangelism at North Park Theological Seminary in Chicago, Illinois. He is the author of Prophetic LamentThe Next Evangelicalism, and Many Colors, as well as coauthor of Unsettling TruthsForgive Us, and Return to Justice, and coeditor of Honoring the Generations.

Mark Charles is a dynamic and thought-provoking public speaker, writer, and consultant. The son of an American woman (of Dutch heritage) and a Navajo man, he teaches with insight into the complexities of American history regarding race, culture, and faith in order to help forge a path of healing and conciliation for the nation. He is one of the leading authorities on the 15th-century’s Doctrine of Discovery and its influence on US history and its intersection with modern-day society.

Mark is an independent candidate for the US Presidency in the 2020 election. He is the author of the blog Reflections from the Hoganand was the Washington, DC, correspondent and columnist for Native News Online. He has served on the boards of the Christian Community Development Association (CCDA) and the Christian Reformed Church of North America. He and his family live in Washington, DC.


Featured music: Justice Songs by the Porter’s Gate Worship Project

For the past four years, The Porter’s Gate Worship project has been creating new worship resources for the church.  It has been our joy and privilege to collaborate with individuals from a wide background of church traditions and musical styles to write new music addressing the moment that we live in.

This year our churches are facing several profound challenges. Our people are grieving all kinds of losses and are looking in worship for ways to reflect their experiences. Our cities and communities are seeing in new ways the forms of sin and injustice that continue to harm our neighbors.

In this season we have been writing new songs on the themes of Lament and Justice. Over the course of this summer, we have actually produced two new records of music for churches that specifically speak to the year 2020.


The music is all recorded and we intend to release both songs and sheet music in September and October. But we still need funds to complete video production and to be able to hire artists and liturgists to create additional worship resources to accompany these songs.

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Episode theme music:

The Old Ark’s A-Movin’ by A.A. Gray & the Seven Foot Dilly

Jesus Said by David Childers

Episode edited by Chris Breslin.

Episode produced by Bob Crawford, Chris Breslin, & Liz Vice.

Episode hosted by Chris Breslin..

If you enjoyed this episode, you may also enjoy these similar RTN Theology episodes:

RTN Theology #16 w/Porter’s Gate Music

RTN Theology #21 w/Esau McCaulley

RTN Theology #30 w/D.L. Mayfield

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