RTN Theology #29 features two theologians who’ve both recently written brilliant books about 4th Century North African Bishop and theologian St. Augustine: Natalie Carnes (Baylor) & previous guest, James K.A. Smith (Calvin). This wide-ranging and luminous conversation spotlights Dr. Carnes’ new book, Motherhood: A Confession (Stanford UP) and branches out to talk about her previous writing on iconoclasm and monuments, justice, memory, and parenting during COVID-19. Paul Zach (featuring Liz Vice) provides our soundtrack with songs from his EP, God is the Friend of Silence.

Related books by Natalie Carnes:

Motherhood: A Confession (SUP, 2020)

Image and Presence: A Christological Reflection on Iconoclasm and Iconophilia (SUP, 2017)

Beauty: A Theological Engagement with Gregory of Nyssa (Cascade, 2014)

Related books by James K.A. Smith:

On the Road with Saint Augustine: A Real-World Spirituality for Restless Hearts (Brazos, 2019)

You Are What You Love: The Spiritual Power of Habit (Brazos, 2016)

Desiring the Kingdom (Cultural Liturgies I) (Baker Academic, 2009)

Featured music: Paul Zach is a songwriter/composer with Paul Zach Music, The Porters Gate Music Project, The Silver Pages, & Redeemer Anglican.

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Episode theme music: The Old Ark’s A-Movin’ by A.A. Gray & the Seven Foot Dilly

Jesus Said by David Childers

Episode edited by Chris Breslin.

Episode produced & hosted by Bob Crawford & Chris Breslin.

Many thanks to Rachel Breslin & Melanie Crawford who help make quiet time and space for these conversations possible.

If you enjoyed this episode, you may also enjoy these similar RTN Theology episodes:

RTN Theology #11 w/Stanley Hauerwas

RTN Theology #13 w/Jennifer Craft

RTN Theology #19 w/James K.A. Smith

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