One of Joe Biden’s first acts as President of the United States was to sign an executive order that disbanded his predecessor’s advisory committee to promote “patriotic education.” This came just two days after the so-called 1776 Commission had published its report, leading many critics to see the report as old news. In reality though, the 1776 report is indicative of social and political forces that transcend Trump’s time in office. In this episode Bob and Ben talk with historian John Fea about the 1776 report, how it relates to the New York Times 1619 Project, and the many problems that come from setting out to write a “patriotic history.”

John Fea is a Professor of History at Messiah University and author of the blog/host of the podcast, The Way of Improvement Leads Home. You can follow him on twitter at @JohnFea1.

Hear Bob Crawford’s first conversation w/ John Fea in RTN Theology #2: Was America Founded as a Christian Nation?

This episode was edited by Gary Fletcher. The Road to Now is part of the Osiris Podcast Network.